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[0:02] It's entertainment law update episode 161 for October 4 of 2023.
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[0:14] Welcome to entertainment law update from Los Angeles California I am Gordon Firemark And from the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex I'm Tamara Bennett. And we are glad that you were here with us again this time around.
This is our podcast about entertainment law where each month we pull together a round up of legal and business news stories and share our opinions and commentary and analysis and try to have a good time with it and keep you entertained at the same time so, Tamara what's new with you, Too much I guess since last where we recorded and spoke trying to get ready for some kind of in and out of town and a couple of different things, You and I will see each other in November. Yes, indeed. And Just had the normal things of of work and life. How about you? Pretty much the same. I'm recovering from a stent as a solo parent while my wife was traveling for a bit on some family business and, Glad she's back and glad that we all survived, And also getting ready for some travel of my own. I'm going to be heading down to New Orleans for The Fincon conference which I have never attended before. It's it's where finance and media meet is out there.
[1:31] An interesting, Couple of days there in mid October so that'll be fun. Sounds fun.
[1:47] 18th grade. I'm unfair.
He's starting grad school. Yeah. But when you say that about media and finances degree is in media convergence. Oh, it is this kind of combination of Business, media, For kind of an understanding on that. Yeah, that's sounds pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
[2:22] And looking forward to it and.
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[4:10] The entertainment world first off and the big news of course is since we talked about it in episode 159, Joining the writers union on strike while the writers union now has a deal and have settled their strike, The new agreement seems to have addressed most of the writers issues the the guild is very upbeat about it still waiting for the, We know that some of the late night shows have already gone back to work and, And it's definitely headed in the in the direction everybody's predicting it will be ratified so some of the issues that they were talking about is the use of AI in the, In the production space and the writers.
Have successfully gotten concessions from the studios that allow them to use AI as long as it isn't the source material and that they're not using the I actually write or rewrite scripts after all that's what they're being paid for is writers. Meanwhile, the companies, Cannot require the use of AI.
[5:24] Identify them labeled.
[5:32] Which is pretty good.
In the strike was the size of the number of writers in the room in the writers room and there's been guidance now placed to provide for minimum sizes of the development Room that's three to six writers per season minimum and providing control to show runners To select the writers for those development rooms so it's it's up to the writers it's not up to the, Networks and production companies. So, Gordon, what's the difference between a writer and a shower? Show runner is usually a, Lead writer, head writer, and they tend to be, you know, they're the executive producers, but in television, I'm like another, Vote The show runners come from the writers ranks and they're usually the creator of the show and and, Lots of writing experience so.
[6:38] Next year and three and a half percent in 2025, Oops set foreign streams are going up by 76% which is pretty significant. I think it was Because it wasn't much before.
[7:04] The streamers have agreed to provide information on viewership to the guild. It'll be aggregated, Anonymized data but that'll be useful for, Writer producers and development room writers before Green Light will also be receiving increases in base pay and there is a show runner training program that's going to be institute I guess that the studios are going to be funding that, And about a quarter of a one 1 million dollars allocated to, Yeah. So, do you think on the AI? I mean, I guess I'm trying to think through, When when they're telling us which can't do with it. Yeah.
[8:07] Again it sort of hard to see but, I can't imagine relying on an AI to write jokes for example or anything like that. You know.
Hey it's in my mind I guess I'm considering it as a, Asking Siri which could be AI or asking Google. You know, are you using a what we would air quote an AI generator to say, Yeah. Well, it's a souris.
Yeah and also I think to maybe you could use it to research what the topics of the day people are talking about or, Assembling lists you know those kinds of things can.
[9:07] They're not supposed to use it to actually write the material itself but to provide some source material and broad data and things like that I think it is Okay. Right. You and I both know they're just not always accurate. Right.
Good friend who's in public relations and you know they've had to internally just like law Lawyers don't be writing your briefs on this.
[9:40] Right?
[9:49] Some good concessions on AI earlier this year before you know when they negotiated they didn't go on strike.
[10:02] Not allowed to replace a director with an AI for example or, Historically performed by the union members, I think that's appropriate. So, Today I believe it is as we record this on Wednesday the fourth and, Be able to negotiate a deal that makes sense for all the parties as well the riders guild certainly, You know, a lot of the similar issues going on. In fact, the deep fake technology is is just this week. I've I've seen several, Celebrities or celebrities relatives, Defect technology Tom Hanks apparently there's a video that looks like Tom Hanks out there hawking some kind of nutritional supplement or something a health product, I guess basically publicly complaining about tools that have been used to, Generator Robin Williams look alike avatar, Expressly contrary to his will so that's right.
[11:21] On the deep vague. You know, this may also become the impetus for some kind of a national level, right? A publicity kind of a statue.
Folks in congress are, Talking when they're not talking at each other. They're talking about this issue a little bit. So, well, they are. Let me see what I have laying here on my desk, As AI technology rapidly evolves Congress must establish a federal right Publicity that protects a human creator from the unlawful use of their identity including their voice to make Market and distribute AI generated content a bipartisan effort in the senate is leading the way to bring this important new safeguard into law And the truth is that this this has implications in politics too because if you can use deep fakes to create You know.
[12:17] Line out of context whatever you could really, We know some candidates have successfully hit done in the past. So, yeah. That another argument in favor of some federal legislation on the subject and I'm not going to hold my breath that it's going to happen anytime really soon, but, At least it's on the agenda a little bit. Right and so I mean the senate has held hearings on AI in the summer, That's the, Write a publicity. I I think you're right.
But Bob.
[13:07] Oh boy. Great transition. Where are we going from there?
Ed Sheeran's thinking out loud case at least one of those cases is over the state of to Edtown send the family as withdraw their Appeal in the second circuit and brought a final End to their battle with Ed Sheeran over there claims that thinking out loud copied Marvin Gaye's 1973 hit let's get it on.
That Ed Thompson co wrote and I just have to fully disclose we haven't talked a lot about this case on the show and that's because it's been a little uncomfortable for me because years ago while he was still living at Townsend was my client and, Wonderful man and and great Talented songwriter and producer but in any event not the case over I feel a little more free to talk about it the township family has they filed their suit in 2016 claiming that, The harmonic and rhythmic compositions of thinking out loud are substantially and or strikingly similar to let's get it on.
Manhattan jury reached its decision earlier this year that Sharhan had not infringed on the copyright.
[14:18] And then I was withdrawn it. There is a sister case going on. Structured asset sales by David a company run by David Paulman.
Owns a portion of the copperta state and that was Also dismissed saying it's an unavailable reality that the court progression and harmonic rhythm and let's get it on or so common place in isolation and in combination That to protect their combination would give let's get it on an impermissible monopoly or a basic musical building block that's from Judge Lewis Stanton's ruling.
[14:58] It's second case based on a slightly different copyright registration of let's get it on as I think to do with the sound recording, So David says that's not going to affect this decision isn't going to affect that case and we will, We will see and someone will be the judge of that at some point. That's right.
Quote, I guess from Ed Sheeran's actual testimony. I I'm very much careful phrasing because I don't have it in front of me but basically, what I have not been crazy if I've gotten a play this in front of 20 1000 fans if I had to Take apparently what he did was he started his song and then at some point transitioned into let's get it on.
And you know clearly the same chords and bandrith progressions and so he said and yeah he invited he asked the jury.
Now wouldn't I be pretty stupid had I done that if I had, The court of the jury agreed the jury bought it and I think the jury.
[16:11] Got the right output in this outcome in this case.
Well what about Valencourt books this is an, Issue.
[16:35] And it's run out of the home of its founder James Jenkins they print On demand basically so somebody orders a book and they print one up and send it out to him now they have never Deposited their works with the copyright office under section 407 that section requires that the owner of cop rate or the exclusive right of publication and a work published in the US shall deposit Within 3 months after the date of such publication to complete copies of the best edition of the work. Notice it's not tied to registration. It's tied to publication.
These works, So June 2 2018 Valencourt gets a letter from the copyright office, Setting out a demand for one complete copy of each of 341 books they published for the use or disposition of the library of congress, And the total retail price of the copies demanded adds up As well as an additional fine of $2500 for willful and repeated failure to comply.
[17:58] Decline to do so and responded Maintaining the position that they were obligated to deposit these books so in August of that year 2018, The Valcor brought an action against the attorney general and the register of copyrights for declarator, Under the first and fifth amendments, As well as in any else we had a best friend in junction against the provisions enforcement contending that four oh seven's application, Violates the first amendment because it automatically burdens speech and is over broad and violates the fifth amendment because it is an uncomfortated taking of property, March of 2019 the cop red office reached out to offer as a settlement, Permission to deposit all of those titles in electronic format, Apply it to Valen Court and Valent Rejected saying well one.
[19:09] You know, that mandatory deposit requirement is a burden on them as well and secondly, I didn't believe it could comply because they had likely lost certain electronic copies of a sum of the works when the home was burgled.
2021 the district court grants a summary judgement to the government rejecting the constitutional claims they held that section four seven doesn't run a foul of the takings clause of the fifth amendment Because it's a voluntary exchange of federal copyright protection, Four, cover a protection, and rejecting the first amendment claim saying it doesn't burden speech at all.
And that even if it were subject first Amendment would survive because it doesn't doesn't burden more speech than necessary so here we are on the appeal at the DC circuit, When you provide copyright owners when you require, Deposit provision the facts a classic taking In which the government directly appropriates private property for its own use.
[20:19] Bennett Benefits excuse me. If the property owner is aware of the conditions of an exchange and the conditions are rationally related to a legitimate government interest. So, Presenting the exchange poses no takings problem but the court said copper and owners don't get any special extra benefit for the works they forfeit Mandatory deposit isn't required in order to secure the benefits of copyright protection which subsists from the moment of fixation, And secondly it is not required to continue retaining the copyrights benefits the statute declares that the deposit requirement is not a condition of copper protection so, The court says that unlike with section 407 Authors do receive additional benefits when they deposit their work belong with the application for registration that's the second 408.
Specifically that you get the right to sue in court. It's a precondition to infringe.
Evidence of the validity of the copyright and access to the additional remedies of attorney's fees and statue damages. So.
[21:42] Taking question it didn't have to get into the fifth amendment question so, I hate to admit this. Yeah, Yeah.
[22:04] Prior to this suit which is the statute says is a mandatory deposit copy for purposes of the library of congress as a Compared to section 408 of the copyright act which requires a mandatory deposit, An application for registration that That makes sense to me for all of the benefits you just mentioned and then also, Prove to have evidence of what was actually submitted, Registration.
[22:59] In our catalog and we want it so you have to send it to us, 407 which I'm guessing it's going to be rise but as this it says the owner of the copyright Or of the exclusive rate of publication. Right.
I wonder if Mr. James Jenkins argued or considered arguing whether or not he owned the copyright or had the exclusive right of publication. Yeah.
Well, these are rare and out of print fiction. I mean, I know a lot of, Well, as works following the public domain, publishers are jumping in and replanting those. Yeah.
Yeah if he's if he's issuing his own addition of an a public domain work and claiming copyed in you know the unique component or the original components of that Edition.
[24:16] Brain thought I had that I'm going to go back and look at and I will just say I mean one of the just practice pointers and or for conversation purposes is what are the best additions that's how it's what it's called the copyright office for the deposit and often times the best edition That the library of congress or the copright office is asking for can be burdensome. Yeah.
As a sound recording it was released both physically and digitally, Filing an application today no more physical products, They're not accepting physical goods as deposit copies anymore. Well, the best edition of a sound recording is a physical good. Yeah. Which also suddenly you've got okay. Well, it was released as both a physical, It was a CD, it was an LP, whatever it was, and a digital download. I don't have access to the best edition anymore, which is the physical product. Yeah. So, please copy right office, Accept, And.
[25:44] Yeah I don't know because I don't know how the library of congress publishes digital works that are still protected by copyright.
[26:06] They may not be the best quality but they're there.
Yeah the whole best edition part of it separate in a part even if you're just filing an application under section 408.
[26:23] Especially if you be an even audio visual works maybe, You you have to you have to write in that note sections why you should get a special exemption, Not cost effective like this. This gentleman. Yeah. You know, he's like, find me because I can't pay the cost. Right.
But I may know it it definitely struck me as burdened some under these facts but yeah I think the the taking is an interesting argument and Apparently the court didn't do so yeah so we'll we'll keep watch on this because I think it impacts our practice and our clients, Definitely. But why don't you take this next story? This is about the, Yep so in while we're talking specifically about Texas Texas is not the loan it may be the loan star state but it's not the loan state in which these kind of things are are happening in legislation is being prepared Proposed and passing. So, a federal judge blocked a controversial text Facebook rating law the day before it was set to take effect September 1 is the day our new laws typically take effect in Texas.
[27:41] Of read or act restricting explicit and adult designated educational resources is part of a wave of, Banning legislation going across the country, I'm assuming school superintendents and questioned whether they should be on library shelves, In schools.
[28:20] And then it pushes the burden to the book sellers take categories Categorize any books they sell or have ever sold to a school according to these two definitions, To refrain from purchasing in these two categories and remove, As well as pushing some conspirantal consent for students to check out, Quote sexually relevant materials out of the library. I'm trying to think back of the books I checked out of the library when I was in high school, Pretty sure some of those may have fallen into this cat, Okay. The Texas Education Agency to overseas the ratings includes the power of rule of vendor.
[29:19] Three categories sorry sexually relevant sexually explicit, And then no sexual content. No sexual content.
Primarily the definition's don't fit, 1973 no, To summon up all knew it when I see it is that the that's the summary on that one which is Miller has the three part test of the contemporary community standard and whether it is, Depicting a patently offensive, With a total lack of serious artistic literary political or scientific value, Hey Inso Texas does define patently offensive and the penal code is quite Quote so offensive on its face as to a front current community standards of decency.
[30:33] Texas community standards of decency Which is an awfully broad net.
[30:53] There is no state wide standard for curriculum.
Texas is going through a lot of curriculum, Disputes on a lot of levels. There's are many other states, yes. Right, right. So, so there's a lot brewing there.
So the bill nor the defendants offered any solution for book sellers to try and track down books they had sold because that was the other part of it they had to go Yeah recall and recall all of the books they've sold, And they had deadlines and consequences to comply with the bill. Yeah. And the TA which is the Texas education agency, Hey importantly the TEA with no deadlines requirements for checks would be able but not obligated, Sounds as opinion. I mean, it sounds like it got through, To even implement it.
Yeah, for whatever reason Texas shows not have anyone employed by the state at any level.
[32:22] So, it is been blocked.
And as well as it looks like there are still pending bills in Florida, Tennessee, Ohio, Missouri, and I suspects another states that we may not have.
[32:43] National band book week. So, if you're, if you're looking for something to go read, there's there's some lists. You can find.
Thank you and I have friends and colleagues on every end of the spectrum and and, Decision, I don't understand. Now, it's a book that perhaps I would not have want my 5678 year, old child to read but it was a young adult book that I was like, Gosh.
You know, anytime, it's interesting, you know, a lot of folks on the conservative end of the spectrum talk a lot about You know, government shouldn't be involved in telling us what we can and can't do, what we can and can't say, you know, the nanny's state argument and yet here, we have, The all of those states where this is happening are conservative states basically trying to say, You know, hey, here's what's okay. Here's what's not and.
[34:03] I think that parental responsibility parental, Autonomy authority over these kinds of things is really the important goal and and, What are kids get is to be active as parents and, A part of the conversation. Yes, I know. There's a lot of folks. Kids don't talk to their parents and things like that. So, And that's hard. You know, everybody's in a different situation. I I know there were some books, Brock Red, Ha. Yeah.
But some of those not all of them I got because he reached so much. I couldn't read everything but I do like to read and so it allows you to discuss it and I get it. That's not everybody's family dining. So, We were in, 2019, It makes you think about it. Okay.
[35:20] So Offensive compounded me.
[35:34] Without giving any guidance on what the criteria were but also here's a law that says you can violate this law by not doing this but we're not going to tell you what it is exactly have to do, Yeah and I think I didn't pick up on your ride. It's not only is it.
[35:55] How do you make the decision to, Who who makes that decision to categorize and put this labels on it? Well, you know, the other thing is the unintended consequences of this as we learned back in what was it though Late 80s with tipper gore in the move to, Block access to record albums. Remember the labeling requirement that and that became a voluntary thing that the industry did. It actually boosted a record sales, Yes, Right and now, you know, and that's still on there. I work with some clients who who, Release non explicit and explicit recordings, Hey, you know, I we could easily do an analysis on ISRC's on streaming. Yeah. And we would see a huge, Difference in the amount. So, Yes this this is a it seems like sort of an obvious outcome why don't you want to Take it in Philisen, Past 5 years ago.
[37:22] Launched to collect blanket mechanical licensing from digital music providers so, Spotify.
So these blanket mechanical licenses were aired into by the platforms with the MLC and the streamers are required to pay royalties owned for the use of the music and then the MLC, Pays that money to the writers and publishers on a monthly basis.
Music modernization act assigns different responsibilities to the copyright royalty judges including the responsibility to set blanket license royalty rates, And in September 2020 the, Ability of digital music providers to adjust monthly and annual reports related to royalty payments including correcting for errors and replacing estimated royalty collections. Basically, kind of internal auditing and updating, And the question became when is a payment late?
The MLC says there's no question a payment is laid if we don't get it by the 45th calendar day after the end of the monthly reporting period.
[38:46] Delete fee should not be due for any timely adjustments, The office is regulation in response to a change in rates but on September 5 the US copyright office ruled, Confirming that songwriters and publishers are owed late fees when digital music providers Do not pay royalties to the MLC on time. That's at 45 days after close of the calendar month.
[39:24] Permont of the highest lawful rate. So, it'll be Interesting to see if we can't, Any sooner any more recent the MLC has distributed seven, Since January 1 2021, That's pretty a darn exciting. In two and a half years, yeah, that that those are some serious numbers. We're paying attention to.
[40:07] For information for independent songwriters and independent music publishers to go register, Focus I suspect there are many that still have not registered. The other thing you can do is search their database.
Even if you are signed to a publishing company you don't own the underlying copyright to make sure it's listed correctly or if you have an admin deal with a different publisher, There are often duplicate entries the MLC is they have a whole process if there's a discrepancy or duplicate or a counter claim, You know it's easy to work with there's I think they can be, Yeah just just want to throw that out there. Good news for copperhead holders on this, I bought on these numbers generally and that the late fees are in fact going to apply you know.
Underpayments I guess that it remain so interesting question is I don't know if it's ever been it's going to be a problem of overpayment what if some what if a company overpays, Them get some adjustment do they get the one and a half percent month Or the interesting things like that.
[41:33] Your mistake too bad. Yeah, that that becomes an advance. There you go.
Well, you know, it's hard to believe it's been a couple of years now since the tragic on set shooting of cinematographer Helena Hutchins back in 2021, The California Legislature has now for the first time created a film set firearm safety law, In the first set of safety protocols in the nation for the motion picture industry, Senate Bill 132 expands tax incentives for motion picture productions and draws highly anticipated language from SB 375 which was initially proposed back in 2021.
The bill enacts a trial period for itself so between 2025 and 2029.
[42:32] From the committee and the California film commission on whether or not to keep the program in place the regulations represent best practices that are already utilized by major productions in studios in the state but now it's law To the, The law requires a qualified property master armor or assistant property master handling a firearm in the course of the motion picture correction must have a specified state permit To have completed certain training and firearms and to have a specified federal document, This is only permitted. The use of these weapons is only permitted for purposes of rehearsal, actor training, The filming of an on camera sequence or as otherwise used In pre-production or production of content.
[43:29] The individual's the only person who hands the gun to the performer or caster crew member during the scene and it has to be collected upon completion, The individual must not have any other responsibilities.
During the time they're preparing the use of the firearm and the firearms and possession of the performer and until the firearm is no longer in you send safely walked away, And there must be an individual identified by the employer to be contacted by performers a crew with respect to safety compliance, They're also supposed to be enough staffing of the firearm handlers to comply with all the requirements so if you got a lot of guns you might need more than one.
[44:19] Guns are in proximity to their the firearms to complete a safety training course so, Unless it's a similarly controlled environment and so on.
So the senator here in California State Senator Corteze the chair of the Senate Committer Committee on Labor Republican employment and retirement.
[45:00] Good for them. Yeah, good. And I think it's, Figure out reality of what works but it sure makes a whole lot of common sense done it. I think the trial period basically forces it, We can talk about it. Now, we have to talk about it and see if it needs adjustment either, Yeah.
I feel like we've talked about this in the past. We have talked about similar cases public resource was on the receiving end of a claim from the state of Georgia when they when they did a, But when they published certain Georgia State regulations, We can't let you do it. Basically, I'm the bad thing I want to supreme court.
Involve the publication of certain building codes and fire codes and public access to them.
[46:26] Air conditioning engineers, Seeing a lot of in the news these days. Ruled that public against public resource. Org and ordered, Owner Malamood to delete all the standards from the internet, They appealed the case to the DC circuit and in 2018 it was reversed and recommended, In 2022 they moved for the plan of smooth for a summary judgement on their claims as to nine of the disputed standards and the district court granted that motion and joining public resource from posting these standards.
Again the DC circuit reversed and Reminded for more factual development.
[47:25] Is very use, Reasonable exercise of discretion in declining to award injective relief on those other nine, Pieces. The court explained that the first three fair use factors strong leaf favor fair use, There he is. They also found that the district court reasonably declined to enter in junction.
Because public resource promptly remove I'm sorry it was 32 different standards they properly removed from the website when those standards were found not to have been incorporated into law, I am the court said hey we have no reason to think that they're going to post unincorporated standards again without the injunction so it's moot you don't need the injunction, So
[48:24] Standard or something and expect that it will be incorporated into law don't expect that you can keep it private and secret and require people to pay you to access that Beautiful. So.
[48:42] 2 years ago now, somewhere around there, maybe three. In that Georgia case that I referenced. So, yeah.
Yeah. I think that's smart. If you're going to, Right?
Well there there was actually an interesting ruling on that just this week but we aren't ready to report on that yet. So okay.
That is coming down. So, we'll be talking about that next month. Okay, cool. You're the fan of the, well, you're big on the Name image likeness rules stuff, Well, you're more of a sports fan than I am and you've been paying more attention to this issue. So, go for it.
California on a portion, And the nation's top college conferences that challenge their rules regarding athlete's ability to make money from their name, image, and likeness.
[50:08] Pay for lost and I over news including broadcast broadcast and video game deals that took place prior to June 15 2016, And secondly seeking a class certification to proceed on behalf of college students who were not getting NIL payments from 2016 to present So
[50:44] From June 15 2024 forward that's the date of the complaint styled house via, And there are three other classes for damages and monitoring compensation.
The judges order examine four requirements of rule 23 B three, Typically, There's thousands of student athletes. So, very numerous. The questions presented are commented members of the class.
Claims by planes are typical to the members of the class who are dision division one athletes and named Plainup's interest aligned with the members of the class, On a interesting note the.
[51:51] But with or without the class action status to any of the damage claims the impact of this case will it will be significant if it rules in favor of this student athletes, Who granted house the name of the motion certified the class is the one who also, So Judge Wilkin is versed, Well, also well versed in this area of law is our former volunteer contributor, Maddie Salamone, who testified in congress a week or so ago about Name image likeness Rules and and the need I think was related to that national right publicity stuff as well.
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